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Re: KX GURU Racing 2016 KTM 250 SX PUMPKIN SEEDS BUILD

Post by Sandblaster » Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:49 am

You can see by this pic that Jason and I cleaned up the front mounting area of the frame rails..
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Jason is cleaning out he rear mounting area for the frame rails.
It is a real pain so if your gonna do it, be aware that the 450 rails we used are 1.5-2mm wider then the 250 rails.
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Re: KX GURU Racing 2016 KTM 250 SX PUMPKIN SEEDS BUILD

Post by Sandblaster » Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:54 am

Yeah, you gotta clean out all the old rail material... have fun...
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Easy does it... Take a little off.. check the fit... Mark it... take a bit more off... Check it... :lol:
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Re: KX GURU Racing 2016 KTM 250 SX PUMPKIN SEEDS BUILD

Post by Sandblaster » Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:57 am

Checking again and again...
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Gettin there :shock:
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Re: KX GURU Racing 2016 KTM 250 SX PUMPKIN SEEDS BUILD

Post by Sandblaster » Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:01 am

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Ok... I just need to make another to match but a mirror image :roll:
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Re: KX GURU Racing 2016 KTM 250 SX PUMPKIN SEEDS BUILD

Post by Sandblaster » Thu Apr 27, 2017 2:58 am

Jason loves grinding :lol:
Good thing because the swingarm needs just a bit of clearance to the engine case and clutch cover.
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Jason is aligning the engine with the frame rails, swingarm, sprockets, and a host of other issues 8-)
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Re: KX GURU Racing 2016 KTM 250 SX PUMPKIN SEEDS BUILD

Post by Sandblaster » Thu Apr 27, 2017 3:00 am

Trim, disassemble, check, reassemble, trim, ect, ect...
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Re: KX GURU Racing 2016 KTM 250 SX PUMPKIN SEEDS BUILD

Post by Sandblaster » Thu Apr 27, 2017 3:04 am

Perfection...
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Just for grins, Jason held up a KX500 engine mount.... FITS PERFECT!!!!
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Only one problem... It's aluminum and we need chromoly...
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Re: KX GURU Racing 2016 KTM 250 SX PUMPKIN SEEDS BUILD

Post by Sandblaster » Thu Apr 27, 2017 3:06 am

I think we can re-position the KTM mounts and weld them back on...
Time will tell..
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Now that we think we have the engine clocked correctly it's time to see if the pipe will fit..
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That looks good...
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Re: KX GURU Racing 2016 KTM 250 SX PUMPKIN SEEDS BUILD

Post by Sandblaster » Thu Apr 27, 2017 3:07 am

Yes.... It's nice.... So far...
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Oh yeah...
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I can't wait to take this thing for a ride...
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Re: KX GURU Racing 2016 KTM 250 SX PUMPKIN SEEDS BUILD

Post by Sandblaster » Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:08 pm

Jason and I took a little trip to the KTM Dealer in Springfield, Or yesterday.

http://grayareaktm.com/

Super nice guys.
They let us take a few measurements and throw a bath scale under some wheels.
What we found had some surprises for us.

These are all 2017 models.
Remember, these were done with a bath scale so if yours weighs a bit more or less don't whine :o :shock: :lol:
Also, these are in lbs
125 SX 17 Front 88.2 Rear 89.0 49.77% on the front.
250 SX 17 Front 90.8 Rear 93.4 49.29% on the front
250 SX-F 17 Front 104.4 Rear 93.4 52.78% on the front
450 SX-F 17 Front 107.4 Rear 93.4 53.48% on the front
KX500 01 Front 116.4 Rear 125.4 48.13% on the front
KX500 94 Front 92.4 Rear 127.4 42.03% on the front
kX450F 10 Front 128.6 Rear 127.6 50.2% on the front
KX250 99 with KX500 engine Front 117 Rear 102 53.42% on the front

A full tank of gas will add about 16lb on a KX500.
I need to get a KX500 completely stock and empty the fuel to see where it is at.
Also, I don't know if the KTM's had rad fluid in them..
Additionally, 1 liter of oil weighs about 2 lb and I don't know if they had any oil in them.

My point in this was to see the difference in weight transfer from front to rear.
Which will give me a idea of where the KTX should come in.
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